Blame Where It’s Due Please, Mr Fry!

Generating mainstream press saturation this week in a way no amount of bombed refugees, human slavery or scientific analysis of the impossible 9/11 WTC building collapses could ever hope to achieve, English comedian Stephen Fry launched an astonishing tirade against God, revealing what he would ask at the Gates of Heaven:

In his imaginary conversation with God, Fry says he would tell him: “How dare you create a world in which there is such misery that is not our fault? It’s not right.

“It’s utterly, utterly evil. Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world which is so full of injustice and pain?”

Pressed by Byrne over how he would react if he was locked outside the pearly gates, Fry says: “I would say: ‘bone cancer in children? What’s that about?’

..http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/feb/01/stephen-fry-god-evil-maniac-irish-tv?page=111

So it’s not only Richard Dawkins accused of shaking his fist at sky fairies: an identical mental incoherence apparently stretches across a wide swathe of outspoken public figures.

Stephen Fry

Not in His image?

The whole thing couldn’t be simpler: the argument for the existence of God only has two sides.  Suppose for a moment that He exists, and you are obliged to credit Him at least with everything in the Universe that doesn’t bear man’s signature.

That would include the marvellous DNA (better than any man made storage device), the ribosome (a 3-D printer better and quicker than anything we made), the infinitely recyclable fuel called adenosine triphosphate (of which half our bodyweight is generated and used every day without even a thought from us – by engines which not only run faultlessly but run backwards when called for, converting surplus fuel into a useful electrical gradient!), the backwards facing retina with its faultless, decision-making, realtime microprocessor – butted seamlessly into its own immune system, coolant system and recycling depot (no other design could survive direct sunlight), the macrophages of our immune system designed to chase, grab (with eery tentacles), then consume and dismantle cancer cells, and so on practically infinitely.

We would credit Him with the wonder of birth, the instinctive love of a mother, society’s geniuses – still a mystery to us, the nourishing and protective mechanisms of the Earth in the freezing (and pitch black) vacuum of space.  Any ever labelled beautiful or awe-inspiring, including the scale of the Universe itself is down to forces beyond Man.  An impressive portfolio!

Is free will designed or random? It makes no difference to free will.  Once you accept free will, then even hypotheising a Creator, we take the blame for human trafficking, invasions, the Guantamo prison, Bush and Blair’s kidnap and torture programs, our wars for oil, the poisoning of the ecosystem, slavery, poverty, massive inequality, starvation, corruption, white phosphorous, napalm, atomic weapons, the sea of plastic, NATO’s chemtrails and so on.

All of these really horrible things bear our signature.  Each seemed like a pretty good idea to someone influenctial, attracted finances and support and eventually passed for normal, until we tolerated them or, for the sake of our sanity, pretended they don’t exist.  Proposing a God means our free will to criticise Him without any expectation of retribution, shows our autonomy, and therefore how much blame we shoulder.  It must be the height of idiocy to demand a God magically intervene to put right our errors, while demanding freedom to do and say exactly as we like.  If God is always to stop the result of natural laws before we reap the harvest of our own actions, then all learning becomes useless and our laws redundant; states of ignorance and of wisdom, law and chaos, maturity and immaturity become worth nothing.  What kind of Universe does Mr Fry want?

If one doesn’t believe in God it becomes simpler still: credit all this injustice to mankind and anything awe-inspiring in the natural world to random forces.  Supposing that, then the intellect we continually boast about and use to rule out any need for a God – has in a few decades made a colossal failure after millions of years of evolution.  We can only conclude random blind forces did a better job bringing us into existence than we did, creating a society riddled with misery.

Maybe Mr Fry should stop wasting his public voice and direct his anger instead at the politicians and mobsters – currently two indistinguishable groups – for these failures.  His intelligence, if resting contentedly and delighting in a world we know to be unjust and fatally flawed must be as tainted as the worst of the political criminal class.  His tirade to God seems more aimed at man!

As for bone cancer in children: Fry will find it is only partly because of our natural immune system (carrying us and our ancestors through billions of years of Earth’s history) heavily damaged by food grade plastics, parabens, benzine pollution, aspartame, chemical “therapies”, radiation, neurotoxic pesticides, glyphosate and genetically tampered profit-centred organism designs.  Apart from these unhelpful factors it is mainly due to our government putting hydrofluosilicic acid – a “highly toxic, unstable poison” – into both parent and offspring’s water for several generations after the horrendous massacres of the second world war (another thing we can thank governments for). HFA (a carcinogen so hazardous that spillages in industry require hazmat suits) accumulates in the growing bones, providing cases of osteocarcinoma for the forseeable future.  Credit where it’s due!

In an atheist’s tirade against the Almighty, is it really too much to expect a little common sense?

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About iain carstairs

I have a great interest in both scientific advances and the beauty of religion, and created www.scienceandreligion.com about 15 years ago with the aim of finding common ground between the scientist and the believer, and to encourage debate between the two sides.
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21 Responses to Blame Where It’s Due Please, Mr Fry!

  1. Yes, an interesting post. How do we look to others? The post-war perception of the Brit abroad was of the ‘English Milord. These days it’s more the British hooligan. Neither are exactly true, but this is how we’re frequently perceived. Perfidious Albion – we frequently say things we don’t mean. Dutch, Australian and French friends have commented on this. The Brits are not honest in their speech, I’ve been told.

    Will we turn our back on Europe? I sincerely hope not. If we do, we’ll become an unimportant subsidiary of the Yankee oligarchy which is leading the charge to destroy the planet’s life support systems

    Je me sens European

  2. A wonderful, appreciative inventory of the marvelous and horrific. In the former, I like to include some items that, though explainable, defy (my) common sense: magnets, gravity, transparent solids like glass and ice, and the curvature of space-time.

  3. Ted Wood says:

    It’s hard to know what to say to Mr Fry and others of his ilk. Thanks for the post, you’ve said it well!

  4. Rich Vetter says:

    Very well spoken/written. Have missed your articles. And, are you progressing well in your health recovery?

    • Hi,

      Thanks very much and it does feel very heartening to write again! I did take a break for a while as I cast about for more therapies, and in December travelled to Lausanne where I found some people who have, in actual fact, devised a cure for cancer which seems to work across the spectrum of this awful disease. I witnessed it among the other patients, and in due course, in myself.

      The big development was that although I’d somehow held the cancer at bay for 18 months, and a PET scan in November showed the tumours had reduced their metabolic activity by about 30% (from 10.9 SUV to 7.4 SUV) I had been unable to yawn (without a sharp, tearing pain) since sometime in August, as the blighter in the depths of my neck must have lethargically grown bigger.

      Anyway, two weeks after beginning this treatment in December, the pain went from an arbitrary 10 to a relatively mild 4. By early January the pain dissolved completely. No matter how I yawned, there was no pain. None, zero! This meant the disease had unravelled by months within a couple of weeks, and given a little more time, seems to have cleared up the primary tumour altogether. As the product, a variant of GcMAF called Goleic, can be nebulised, it was an ideal application for me.

      I wanted to write about it but was busy creating a portrait I hope to get into a London exhibition but which I’m pretty certain will be politely refused, and anyway thought I should wait until the lymph tumours, steadily smaller and less painful, disappeared or became benign.

      In fact they might be benign already, but you’re limited as to how many PET scans you can have in a short period because of the radiation, so I’ll give it more time before I get them checked.

      Waiting suits me very well!

      Thanks again, and all the best

  5. What excellent news Iain! So very glad that you had the sense and ability to seek alternatives to the dreaded Chemo that is thrust on the trusting. Our hearts go out to you. Fry is a prat!!

    • That’s really kind – what with the pain, I felt I’d failed, and was reluctant to write anything someone else might take as advice. For sure I will write about this latest mechanism and why it seems to succeed, once I feel I understand it!

    • And thanks for following the blog – hopefully something interesting will be written in these pages, to affirm your momentous decision!

  6. Maria Vincelli says:

    So happy and proud of you Iain. My husband had kidney cancer which was successfully treated by removal of the kidney. However his other kidney operates at 40% and we always worry that the cancer will return. We will keep our eyes on your recovery. Well written article and I agree. We are the masters of our own demise. The universe/God has given us everything but we are not good at respecting and appreciating it. Maria

    • Don’t worry about cancer anymore – the mechanism of the enzyme which slowly sedates the immune system, acetyl-n-galactosaminidase (nagalese) is now understood thanks to decades of work by a Dr Yamamoto and more recently a Professor Ruggeirio who I met in Lausanne. Of course, everyone gets cancer every day, but the immune system stamps it all out as fast as it arrives. It’s the immune system which has been damaged, and treating the tumour in isolation is completely backwards. Treat the immune system and you solve the problem permanently.

      The correction is the addition of tiny amounts of GcMAF (a vitamin D derived macrophage activation factor) to the patient which re-ignites the macrophages and seems to be enough to cause tumours of all kinds to regress, provided they are still of modest size. Nagalese testing can detect the presence of a tumour long before it’s big enough to be scanned or felt, because from the very start nagalese is the pathway by which cancer grows by evading its natural predators, the macrophages, and nagalese is present as soon as you have a growing but still invisible tumour.

      It’s also present in HIV patients, who, if not anemic, showed 100% recovery in a sample study done by, I believe, Yamamoto. They were followed up seven years later and no trace of the virus was found. Nagalese is going to be a very big word in medicine, I’m sure of it, once the chemical companies finally stop killing people with their over-used and much abused product. I read somewhere that pharma factories are divided into two camps: one is involved with immune system research, and the other camp desperately wants to be.

      If doctors could give up using chemical flamethrowers to fight the tumour (which ruins the immune system, and amplifies the tumour cells to supertumours) instead of boosting the immune system, cancer could probably be eradicated within a generation. At least we, knowing better, can get nagalese tested and stop living in fear!

  7. Scott says:

    Its no better that the majority of christian religions teach that God “takes” human lives via these atrocities because he “needs another angel” as if he was somehow out of the dynamic creative energy he used to create everything in the first place. When i speak to atheists or evolutionists, i at least realize we have this in common: in search of truth we unearth tremendous untruths, and we are all searching for something better than the mishmash of tradition and mythology that religion is teaching and preaching as biblical doctrine and fact, IE hellfire, immortality of the soul, or predestination. I understand Mr. Frys frustration, millions share his viewpoint, and are not getting the truth about why we see suffering from our ‘Religious Shepherds.” but hey, isn’t that something Jesus foretold?

    • Fry takes the same view as the religious fundamentalists, projecting a psychologically damaged human being into a God, some battered survivor flailing about in cowardice and ignorance the way some humans do when they grow up in fear, perhaps becoming alcoholics. Fry simply goes one step further into this flimsy haunted house, and instead of living in pathological fear of this absurdity, bowing and scraping to it and angrily denouncing others who refuse to share his view, he claims to have abandoned it in order to live better.

      But he hasn’t, which is why he still castigates this ludicrous pantomime dame of a God, blaming him for causing cancer in kids. Perhaps God also dropped napalm and Agent Orange on Vietnam, in his mind? It’s all depressingly familiar; I’m surprised any so-called thinker, instead of adopting the outlook of an Assyrian writer crouched in fear of the Sun, looks at the biological wonders uncovered since and basing any idea of divinity – even one he rejects as unimaginable – on that!

  8. Maria says:

    This is going to sound awful but he is bipolar and perhaps is suffering a manic episode or he needs his meds adjusted. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/the-victim-of-my-own-moods-stephen-fry-reveals-suicide-attempt-in-2012-adding-tv-producer-saved-his-life-8646378.html
    Enough said!

  9. Lawrence Johnson says:

    Ian – So happy to hear you are well. I check the site once a day for anything new. We need more people like you on this rock. Be well.
    Lawrence Johnson -A Floridian

    • What a kind thing to say. Although I haven’t written much recently, the wait will be worthwhile – in the next couple of weeks I promise an essay revealing the cure for cancer, and the mechanism behind it. Prepare a comfy rock for reading!

  10. John Douglas says:

    Here is another, equally valid, criticism of Fry-
    http://michaelprescott.typepad.com/michael_prescotts_blog/2015/02/life-after-birth-.html?cid=6a00d83451574c69e201b7c7441bed970b#comment-6a00d83451574c69e201b7c7441bed970b

    …that comment was off topic but the post itself “Life after birth” was very good.

    • Wow, that guy really pulls out all the stops! He also tackles the eye-eating insect, one of the two central militant platforms, the other being the extended, looped laryngeal nerve. The latter, since it carries connections to the heart, is probably part of a timing mechanism related to the distance between the brain and the heart; thus it will. Art between the giraffe and the human, for example. When I recently had to study the inflammatory response I was stunned by the levels of complexity. The list of cascading mechanisms seemed never ending, and each component was acting as part of a whole, communicating with the previous and the next layer of activity. Nothing was superfluous, exactly as you’d expect in an infinitely well organised whole.

      Stephen Fry seems euphoric, which is great, but that kind of high is very fragile. I remember when just before his appearance in a play some years back he panicked totally from stage fright and fled the country. Most people try to master these extremes to keep them at a distance but they seem to overwhelm him. It’s hard not to feel some kind of downward correcting trend might be on the way because that’s just how life works.

      Better than all my blathering by far is this comment from Lawrence B on that blog you mentioned:

      “I screamed at God for all the starving children, then I realized that all of the starving children were God screaming at me.”

  11. naeem says:

    Well I’m for one like so many, glad to here that you are getting better, Praise be to Allah Most Kind. I never really take fake figures like Fry seriously, though it’s just as well to see a well versed reply to his ridiculous foolish and insane comments. I feel inspired by your reply.

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